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Hi Josy,

I support you in your message, because what I often see here regarding dreams is that some people do not provide important details of their dreams... all work with dreams is done on a daily basis,

I sometimes have the serious impression that some people are engaging in dumping… it’s nonsense! and it deeply disappoints me, because some people say anything goes, it’s nonsense or clairvoyance, which actually has no place in dreams, and be careful with projection, sir and madam… I read the sections on dreams and I notice that there is a lot of clairvoyance… dream analysis is not clairvoyance, etc… I don’t know what entity possesses you, but good God, be careful with projection… dream analysis is conducted on a daily basis and a gradual opening of the unconscious… manifesting in various ways, whether in dreams that are the most morbid to the most beautiful; the dream belongs to the dreamer, and these are symbolic, constituting the language, the vocabulary of the language of the unconscious and of our soul.

Dreams allow us to do a major spring cleaning throughout our soul…

Why are interpretations almost always negatively connotated… the loss of this, the loss of that, or death, etc. It becomes morbid in the long run… not everything is related to death (I agree with rebirth, but the death of the father, the death of the mother, the death of brothers or sisters, or the death of that… the death of this).

Rolande

Hello Rolande,

Thank you for your support, I feel somewhat reassured reading your words.

Lately, I’ve been asking myself why so many negative impressions are made in the interpretation of dreams?

A dream in itself is an extraordinary, complete, and complex machine that communicates to us messages whose interpretations vary according to the content of the dream.

That is why, in my view, it is important to analyze every last detail, for each detail is a link in a chain, and by gathering all these links together, we can hope to give it its full meaning.

I also remain skeptical about the negative aspect that comes across.

Even in a positive demonstration, one must remain vigilant, question things, and present interpretations in a moderate manner.

So I can only understand your “sacred outburst,” because sometimes I feel sorry for readers who may be confronted with some disturbances caused by certain interpretations that sometimes seem reductive to me.

Good evening Rolande and Josy,

I agree in the sense that dream interpretation requests should be more detailed by the consultants, but we must not forget that upon waking, we do not always remember all the details seen in the dream, thus retaining only the elements that impressed us the most!
It is true that dream interpretation has nothing to do with clairvoyance, but from there to claiming or implying that we are inhabited by entities, I don’t know how to call them, there is a step…
Dreams belong, of course, to the dreamer, but I have nonetheless already observed, on several forums, that people seeking the interpretation of a dream or of a clairvoyance are primarily looking for a concrete and rather down-to-earth answer that can address their questions or anxieties, without specifically seeking analytical, philosophical, spiritual, or Freudian explanations that might make them feel as though they are on a psychotherapist’s couch. Interpretations are not always negative or morbid in tone; they simply reflect the everyday life of everyone, which is unfortunately not solely imbued with spirituality or nobility of spirit!
There are realities that cannot be hidden; it all comes down to the art and manner of expressing them, which can be done with diplomacy and delicacy, though that is not always easy.

Warm regards
The magician.

Rolande, which message from Josy are you referring to? I don't understand.

Thank you for these explanations, Lemagicien.

Good evening Tom,

All these debates stem from a request, I believe, for a “salt” dream.

Kind regards
The magician.

No one has to set the law or rules on the forum.

It seems that, due to my mistake, you are criticizing the general approach of another psychic.

I find this to be very unconstructive and unenriching for the members.

The forum is free and open to everyone, and above all to you, who are an essential component and privileged members. So I wonder why you do not intervene in the clairvoyance or interpretation that suits you?

If an interpretation seems inappropriate, too negative, etc., you are perfectly free to state your opinion on the interpretation of a particular symbol.

Generally, I believe that there is no good or bad method of clairvoyance. All of this is based on personal and intimate beliefs, and it is illusory and proselytizing to believe that one holds a doctrine that is stronger or truer than another.

It will be all the more true than the way of convincing that one is right.

Also, I think that out of respect for the clients and for the people who offer their time and passion through clairvoyance, it would be much better to debate and discuss when a psychic’s interpretation concerns you, bothers you, or simply disagrees with your beliefs.

The risk? None. The member will get their money's worth: it's free!
And in any case, it is up to him to synthesize the diverging viewpoints.

Thank you for your attention to these points.

P.S. The vulgar word used in the subject line is out of place on this forum, and I am censoring it.

Good evening Tom,

I don't think that Roland and Josy intended to criticize another psychic. However, having followed the case and frequently visited the Dreams website, I have noticed that people often omit some additional details that would make it easier to decipher their dreams.

Furthermore, this proves that Roland and Josy are committed and put their whole heart into it (which is to their credit) in order to provide the best possible explanations. Moreover, everything started with the question, “I saw salt,” and without wanting to play devil’s advocate, it might have been wise for the dreamer to share their state of mind at the time or provide details about their concerns. It is true that otherwise, it becomes clairvoyance (again) rather than dream interpretation.

Sincerely / Lemaire

Hello Lemaire692
I agree that Rolande and Josy77 put a lot into it, but there are also Lemagicien, Eliana, the people on the site, and me.
And we also put in good will, I don’t understand Nahloucha gave few elements and they know how to analyze and not me let’s go. Sometimes there is also clairvoyance and then it’s true. I don’t think that Rolande and Josy have the monopoly if I can’t express my feelings I have nothing to do on this site and neither does my daughter and neither does my friend. I thought we were a small family open to everything and everyone it’s only an illusion, why do we always need a coalition she is right isn’t she the other one is right that each person gives their opinion on dreams and that’s it. I have never been insulting and insulted in that way with the hits of … and my entity … and nonsense … honestly I would regret one thing it’s Lemagicien.
Thank you for your attention, and I wish you a good day.
Best regards
Ladysally

Hello Ladysally

If I mentioned Rolande and Josy, it’s because they were implicated. Of course, there’s also the magician, you, and Eliana, and on behalf of all internet users, I thank you for your work. But Ladysally, I understand that you feel targeted by Josy and Rolande’s post about salt; however, I read that post myself, and in no way are you being criticized—or else, I’m sorry, I didn’t understand anything.

Why take it like that??? I think it all started with a misunderstanding, so let's all act like intelligent people, forget about it, and stay united like a little family. That's the impression you get when you first arrive on the site, and besides, even within a family, there are some disagreements, but that doesn't mean the members separate.

Best regards / Lemaire

Hello Lemaire692,
I agree that they were implicated and I wasn’t, perhaps, but she started another thread of discussion saying my move was… not honest, and frankly, it was a bit hurtful. I have never at any point allowed myself to say that she is or does this or that.
I don't act on a whim, and if we're not being frank, the relationship won't work from that angle.
They could have said they disagreed, and then we could have debated, and I would have been able to defend myself. When I saw the thread (a shot of...), I asked myself the question, and when I later saw Tom’s message, I understood. No, I’m not paranoid, and I defend myself just fine. I was upset by the situation; I have epilepsy and I was trembling like a leaf, so I call that gratuitous meanness.
Defend whoever you want, I don't care anymore, my dear.
Friendly
Ladysally

Hello ladysally

I regret, believe me, that you are upset and have made yourself ill over this post. On the other hand, I am not defending anyone, since I like everyone on this forum. I was simply trying to offer an objective perspective based on what I had read.

I hope everything will work out.

Sincerely/lemaire

Hello Lemaire692,
Thank you for your approach, and I appreciate your objectivity. If you are committed to one person, you inevitably hurt another. I’m not saying you shouldn’t have an affinity with someone, but that falls into a different category.
Thank you for your understanding, and I wish you a good day.
Best regards
Ladysally

Hello ladysally

I’m the one who should thank you.

Sincerely/lemaire

Hello,

I just read your exchanges, and I wonder why there is so much controversy in your writings.

Here we are on a site where sharing and exchanges are, at first glance, the purpose of this site, and where everyone has the right to express their opinion... and this without judging anyone.

We each have a different view or opinion on any lived experience, or interpretation of clairvoyance or dream…

The fact that Josy and Rolande want to be more explicit about the details of a dream is perfectly normal, since these are their perspectives, intended to analyze it more deeply in order to better understand its meaning.
And the fact that Ladysally and Lemagicien have a different perspective on the interpretation of a dream can in no way cause the forum to boil over, which, to my astonishment, makes no sense at all..!!

We are on a site of exchanges and mutual respect!! and above all, let's not mix up clairvoyance and dreams, which are completely different..

I finally hope that this site will become as harmonious as it used to be, without forgetting that we each have our own convictions or approaches to topics as diverse as a clairvoyance website can contain.

friendship

Eliana

A big thank you, sweet and dear Eliana

May a little serenity finally bring full meaning to the site, and may everyone rediscover the pleasure of constructive and warm exchanges, even if we have different points of view. Fortunately, we do have them; this can only enrich us. All of this should unfold harmoniously in humility, not in combativeness and clashes.

I cherish this hope for the sake of everyone to whom I send my friendly thoughts

I'm giving you a big hug :-*

Hello dear Josy,

by this post,
That’s more or less what I want to convey to the site members: a bit more harmony and serenity, as that is the site’s goal!

Let the message get through and be heard.

all my friendship

eliana :-*

Hello everyone,
I am not going to say the same thing over and over again hundreds of times.
I never said that one was right and the other was wrong. I’m not fighting from far away; I just shared my opinion. What’s with the aggression, my friends?
You have the monopoly, as far as I can see; you hold the absolute truth and don't even respect me as a person, and slyly you start a discussion thread saying my [expletive]... I don't know what entity possesses you... you shouldn't just say anything...
Go check out my dream “de sel” thread: Nahloucha has lost a loved one. Seriously, did you even pass along a message of condolences, or were you too busy taking care of me to even bother with a note of apology? I am genuinely hurt.
From now on, I will say nothing, except to interpret the dreams of the people on the site.
Please accept my wish as a gesture of friendship and truce.
Sincerely
Ladysally

Dear all,

I am also quite surprised by so much controversy, or even "nearly" pettiness.

What's going on???
Attention, we are all here on this forum because judging others does not exist!!! So please, set aside your negative energy before logging in! So many forums are degrading; let us all strive to keep our EDEN pure!!!

Kind regards

Grazou

PS/ LEMAIRE, I don't think I've seen you on the site before this month. If you're new, welcome, even if the sky is gray. Otherwise, I look forward to hearing from you!!!

Hello Grazou

Indeed, I am new here and I thank you for welcoming me.

Sincerely / Lemaire

Thank you, Eliana, for this phrase that I confirm: harmony and serenity, for that is the purpose of the site.

It is clear that these posts were out of place and I would have preferred that they did not exist.

I put that down to anger and impulsiveness.

If it was a personal attack, I hope apologies have been made. If not, you will have to accept mine.

I don't think harmony or anything else has left the site; there is much more traffic, more people, more things, and that is a good thing because it will certainly allow for the development of other areas for the site.

It is quite normal for there to be issues of territory, jealousy, or discord, and it does not worry me; this happens in all families, even among brothers and sisters.

These posts show at least one thing: that the site is free and that there is life!!!

But problems should be resolved privately and directly; it’s a sign of good spirits, and I would not appreciate consultations, whether organized or spontaneous.

For those who wish to establish rules of conduct in certain sections, I have already indicated that I am awaiting proposals. In any case, Caludiac is the moderator of the Dream Interpretation forum, so these rules should be proposed to him so that he can post and pin them on the forum.

Regarding this incident, I am clearly stating these rules on the website:

1/ RESPECT FOR OTHERS
2/ NO INDIRECT CRITICISMS ON THE FORUM
3/ NO VULGAR WORDS
4/ THE RIGHT TO CONTRADICTION IN CLAIRVOYANCE AND INTERPRETATIONS IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE SITE, ALLOWING MEMBERS TO JUDGE.
5/ DEONTOLOGICAL DEVIATIONS MUST BE MANAGED BY ADMINISTRATORS OR MODERATORS: REPORT TO MODERATORS
6/ The forum rules may evolve based on proposals from members to the moderators, or to the administrators if there are no moderators.

Since the incident is closed for everyone, I am locking this post.