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Symbolic lag and personal projection (2)

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Dreams indicate to us, in a symbolic language, what lies behind an image: the representation of a memory to which a personal interpretation has been grafted.

In this regard, the discovery of symbols must be considered in two ways: on the one hand, through our personal projections, and on the other hand, through universal symbols (Jung).

Once again, we must ask ourselves whether we are among those who dream symbolically or not.

To dream symbolically means that our dreams are populated by imaginary characters, which represent a facet of our personality or that of the lives of those around us. This is the subjective dream. Ancient peoples confronted dreams with external events rather than with interiority. Can one truly separate the one from the other?

You dream symbolically if your nature is complex, highly sensitive, or if you are getting older. In this type of dream, characters of the same sex who live in the dreamer's intimacy represent fragments of their life. The further we advance in life, the more we dream of symbols that come from the collective unconscious. We inevitably dream in a symbolic language, and this does not necessarily indicate excessive sensitivity.

Those who do not dream symbolically are mostly phlegmatic, young people whose temperament is not easily disturbed and who are not afraid to view the facts of life objectively. They have objective dreams.

In this kind of dream, the characters are authentic: the husband, the sister, the friend, the mother, etc. They dream of the real people who form the usual fabric of their existence. Their true movements, or those of the others, are not hidden from them; they see directly, without disguise or inversion, the relationship they live with those around them.

Hello Rolande,

Can we say that we have symbolic dreams when we dream of Christ or of saints?

In my little life, I have dreamed of Christ twice, the first time in response to a question!!
I don't know the meaning of the second one!! :-\

friendship

Eliana :wink:

Hello Rolande,

Our dreams are undoubtedly populated with imaginary characters, but what does it mean when you find yourself in a dream set in the Middle Ages or another era, conversing with characters who speak the language of that time and are dressed in period-appropriate attire?
I have had dreams about a name or a character related to my dream, and upon researching, I realized that such a character had indeed existed or had been part of a family in which the events seen in the dream had taken place, for example, a crime or a hanging, etc. Because in my dream it seemed so real, I can deduce that it must have been people who probably took part in my past life.
In my opinion, these are projections of a past life or a future one that we perceive, because premonitory dreams do exist.
As for me, I rarely dream about my loved ones, except in the case of a premonitory dream, which often turns out to be accurate.
No one has ever managed to enter our consciousness in order to explain our dreams, nor to explain death or life after death. I fear that many speculations surround these subjects and will remain to be studied, as they ultimately concern us all.
Is it only explicable?

See you soon
The magician.

Sweet Éliana,

Dreaming of Christ is the symbol of power acquired through suffering, obedience, acceptance, and the most sublime purification, perfection. Everything that is inexorably experienced on earth stems from the decisions of an invisible government. Christ is a symbol of a model to follow, with whom everyone can identify. And in this sense, he guides man in his existence, having himself been involved in an earthly programming. For two thousand years, he has been the greatest affirmation and negation of failure and power, through his death and resurrection.

Seeing him in a dream is therefore highly significant in the circumstances you were experiencing, since Christ has become the greatest power; his intervention in a dream must assure us of our path.

In life, I believe we suffer for these three reasons:

  1. We have already done it for others;
  2. To strengthen oneself and learn
  3. We have voluntarily accepted to suffer for others.

It is said that somewhere in miniature we are Him to varying degrees, along the trajectory of our destiny.

Friendship to Éliana and lots of tenderness

Rolande

Dear Magician, it means what it means; indeed, no one has managed to read or perceive our consciousness, but you know your own consciousness. What you describe is indeed palpable and very real. By the way, I have not yet finished explaining certain elements about dreams. And in passing, I hold no truth as such… I possess no science whatsoever… I am merely attempting here to explain certain aspects related to human dreams.

I reiterate that I hold no truth… and each person dreams in their own way, in the manner they are given to dream. What we do at the outset in dream analysis is to suggest, to help, to dissect, to try to see differently, with our different visions and our qualities of heart and soul, and this is a great human wealth that we are permitted to share with our earthly peers in an attempt to try, to feel our way toward understanding our dreams and to share them.

friendship
Rolande

Good evening Rolande,

I do not doubt any science, but we must admit that certain facts are difficult to explain, understand, or decipher, and that is why I am very pleased with the explanations you provide us, as they are imbued with much truth and wisdom, sometimes compelling us to ask the right questions while conducting our examination of conscience!
But don't you think that our dreams might be connected to our past lives or to those yet to come?
That’s what I’d like to try to understand.

Very friendly
The magician.

Thank you, dear Rolande,

It is true that having dreamed of “Him” following a request I had made regarding a problem with my ex-husband, He came to comfort me in my doubt and suffering, and thus assure me that we would see each other again!!! :slight_smile:

You always find the right words, dear Rolande, and I read you with joy and emotion! :wink:

I agree with you when you say:
In life, I believe we suffer for three reasons:

  1. We have already done it for others;
  2. To strengthen oneself and learn
  3. We have willingly accepted to suffer for others.

I am even convinced of it.

all my friendship

eliana :-*

I do not doubt any science, ( Me, yes. lol I question science with all their paradigm lol lol ) .. But we have to admit that some facts are hard to explain.(, which is true, sometimes it's very difficult to explain) to understand or decipher, and that is why I am very pleased with the explanations you provide us, for they are imbued with much truth and wisdom, sometimes compelling us to ask the right questions while conducting our examination of conscience!

But don't you think that our dreams might be connected to our past lives or to those yet to come? Absolutely, the magician on that, I have no doubt, because when you find yourself with medieval characters or premonitory dreams, they certainly exist. I will try to explain them in a future post and how to differentiate them from other dreams (so-called normal ones).That's what I'd like to try to understand.

We will try, dear Magician, to look at this closely together.

For example, in dreams, one must analyze along two dimensions that I will attempt to explain to you. For instance: manifest and latent contents, other symbols, the Jungian anima and animus, the difference between the mental dream, the astral dream, and the physical dream, how to have an astral dream, dreams triggered by fear or anxiety, why some people dream in black and white while others dream in color, the individual unconscious in dreams, the collective unconscious in dreams, the hypnagogic dream, the recurring dream, why one should work with their dreams? Basic criteria for analyzing one’s dreams, etc., in short, the questions we ask ourselves…

P.S.: I reread my post and I apologize if I was a bit direct, but just before writing to you, I had to address someone (or take a stand) on the issue of idolatry, among other things... (grrrrrrrrr I have a hard time with idolatry) and I understand myself... however, this has nothing to do with the people on the site... I should have taken the necessary step back before writing to you so that you wouldn't end up receiving this part that ultimately wasn't yours. I am sincerely sorry for my behavior towards you.

Fraternally / Rolande

Good evening Rolande,

What you are telling us is very interesting.

Those who do not dream symbolically are mostly phlegmatic, young people whose temperament is not easily disturbed and who are not afraid to view the facts of life objectively. They have objective dreams.

In this kind of dream, the characters are authentic: the husband, the sister, the friend, the mother, etc. They dream of the real people who form the usual fabric of their existence. Their true movements, or those of the others, are not hidden from them; they see directly, without disguise or inversion, the relationship they live with those around them.

Up to what age are people considered "young"?
How would you describe premonitory dreams (dreams of real situations or events) in which the real situations and events actually take place:

  • I dreamed of a stadium on fire, with police and ambulances in a state of commotion. Shortly after, I found out it had happened during a football match in Belgium (I think it was started by hooligans).
  • I dreamed of someone giving me something at a specific location (completely unknown to me), and the event took place exactly as I had dreamed it.
  • I have already dreamed that I would see someone, and I saw her.

What category of dreamer would you put me in? I think it's the second one, isn't it? I often dream about people I know, my mother, my sister, dear friends, colleagues, bosses…

Best regards, ClaudiaC

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